‘Caring Without Carrying It All’ a 2 part podcast conversation with Nicole Schiener with Julie Cusmariu

By Julie Cusmariu – April 27, 2023

Nicole Schiener is passionate about fostering healthy relationships at home and work and is on a mission to liberate mothers from perfectionism and the pressure to do it all. Part 1 of my conversation with Nicole Schiener included the following:

-Topics connected to Eve Rodsky’s book, FAIRPLAY- A Game Changing Solution for When You Have Too Much to Do (and More Life to Live).
i.e. the misconception that women have infinite time and men have finite time. As Eve Rodsky says in her book.
-Recovering from the pandemic
-Burnout and Compassion Fatigue and the difference between the two.
-How therapy can support you.
-In Nicole’s words how can we “Care without carrying all the responsibilities.”

Listen to the full conversation here. Part 1.

More of what we talked about in Part 2 of our conversation.

-Women are socialized to devalue their time. and we explored one the rules described in Eve Rodsky’s book, FAIR PLAY ( A Game-Changing Solution for When You Have To Much To Do): Rule #1-ALL TIME IS CREATED EQUAL and how we have existed inside a construct in which men’s time is treated as finite but women’s as infinite.

-What might equity in relationship look like.

-Tips and insights on raising our kids to honor time and responsibility. Including at what age we may expect kids to start making their own lunches and cleaning their rooms.

-We spoke to the invisible work, the mental load, the emotional labour and all that shows up in a day’s work (and that’s outside of the work we get paid for). 

And much more with some levity and warmth.

“We expect women to work like they don’t have children and raise children like they don’t have work.” Amy Westervelt. Quote shared in ‘FAIR PLAY’.

Nicole Schiener is an Award Winning Registered Psychotherapist in Ontario Canada. She’s a Certified Gottman Bringing Baby Home Educator and regular contributor to the Gottman Blog. As part of her recovery from burn out, Nicole became a Certified Compassion Fatigue Professional facilitating wellness workshops to other helping professionals. Nicole is passionate about fostering healthy relationships at home and work and is on a mission to liberate mothers from perfectionism and the pressure to do it all. A proud mom of teens, she loves reading memoirs and being in Nature. Visit her website ( https://peaceandpossibility.ca)

You can LISTEN to this episode here

Listen to my conversation with Nicole


Julie Cusmariu is a certified life coach, certified mentor coach, and intuitive consultant. She helps leaders and creative individuals trust their intuition and use their voice to create positive change, gain clarity, and lead with meaning and purpose. Julie is the host, creator, and producer of ‘Julie in Conversation’ a weekly live podcast with expert guests inspiring personal and collective change.
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